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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby spudseamus » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:27 pm

I walked around the church today and all that remains of the school is part of the old side wall !
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:36 am

Bet it brought back memories Spud.


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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby shelsforever » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:36 pm

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Navanman! Any idea where the location is of the photo featuring Heitons? it looks very familiar to me.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:15 pm

It was on Cumberland Street.

Opposite where the O'Reilly Electrical (the old Post Office) was.

Photo was taken in the 60's

When I took it there was a man at the bus stop that did not want his face shown for some reason.


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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Strum » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:42 pm

Good question Shels. Also I think it's doubtful that that is the Lighthouse in D/L. :?:
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Snowhite » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:54 pm

Strum wrote:Good question Shels. Also I think it's doubtful that that is the Lighthouse in D/L. :?:



I think it's the Kish, Strum.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Strum » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:57 pm

But there's a little Pier there in the Foreground Snowy. If that was Carlilse Pier you wouldn't see the West Pier going around the back of the East Pier Lighthouse. :?:

Unless the Kish was built in the Harbour and towed out.




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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Snowhite » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:09 pm

We have some old cine film of The Kish when it was being brought out from D/L, I think it would have been down near the Irish Lights. It looks exactly the same as on the film.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Strum » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:03 pm

Ummm I didn't know it was a floating Lighthouse.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:23 pm

Strum,
Don't know what happened my posting just now. Anyway here I go again.

The photo is of the Kish before it was towed out to the "open sea".

It was taken from the pier (now covered over) in "the depot". The arrow is point to the pier. The Kish is located behind where the old Seamans Mission house used be. They used a corner of the Wharf as a closed off building site.

Originally the Kish was built in the inner harbour but something went wrong (don't remember what) but they had to start over again. The "old structure" was there for ages (possibly years) after it was abandoned.

The "new" structure was in the coal harbour before being towed to the position you see here.

It consists of 2 structures (an inner and outer). The inner structure floats within the outer structure. The main building was completed in the harbour (that is the photo you see).

The Kish actually floats and the structure was towed out to the Kish Bank as you see it there and they then filled the void between the 2 structures thus allowing the inner structure to float up.

Once the inner structure was up they filled the void with stone (and concrete I presume) giving the Kish the shape it is today.


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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Strum » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:26 pm

Thanks for that. Interesting. It will never cease to amaze me the man-made structures around the Harbour.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Harjoe » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:48 pm

our factory in Albert road supplied the ducting for the kish lighthouse and some of us worked on the vessel before it was towed out remember the first base when built was wrong and that was if I remember right was towed to Bray harbour .
The one in the photo was towed out to the Kish and then they filled the base with concrete and that brought up the top part up to the height above the Kish
I remember when they towed it out I think all of the town was on the pier to watch
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:20 pm

Yes there were huge crowds on the pier.

What year would you say it was?


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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Harjoe » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:35 pm

About 1964 I think
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Micheál » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:35 pm

The first one was towed to Greystones.

When the second one was being towed out (I was there to watch) there was a second minor mishap. One of the steel ropes snapped and a worker got his arm broken.

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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby jwdalk » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:43 pm

This from the Commissioners of Irish Lights site. I remember the original base in the Coal Harbour. I think it ended up as part of Greystones harbour eventually.

Construction work commenced at Dun Laoghaire in July 1963. A level site was prepared in the inner harbour at Dun Laoghaire and this was surrounded by a wall of sheet piling to form a cofferdam within which the base was to be constructed. Unfortunately when the base was floated off the site and allowed to settle again it grounded unevenly and this caused damage which was increased when, during a storm in December 1963 the caisson was sunk. When it was raised it was decided to cover the top with a thick concrete slab and to use it as a buoyant base on which to build a new structure.

The construction of the lighthouse was soon under way again, the bottom portion of the lighthouse being built as a caisson with an outside diameter of 104 feet and a three feet thick base slab. There are three concentric walls of varying heights, the greatest being 91 feet. These walls are interlocked by twelve radial walls forming sections which were flooded as required during the sinking operation. The tower is a self contained unit of twelve floors built within the caisson. It is 100 feet high and surmounted by a 32 feet diameter helicopter landing platform which is surrounded by a safety net.

In November 1964 the caisson was towed to St. Michael's wharf where the construction was almost completed and on the evening of 29th June 1965, it was towed out of Dun Laoghaire Harbour to the Kish Bank and later sunk on a level platform of stones which had previously been prepared by divers and buoyed by the Irish Lights Tenders.

The operation of raising the tower was completed on 27 July 1965. This was done by flooding the lower caisson with water causing the tower to float up some 54 feet 6 inches and the final lift was achieved by jacks and pre-stressing cables built into the lip of the base. These cables allowed for small corrections to ensure the tower was vertical. The water was then pumped out and replaced by 18,000 tons of sand and topped with concrete. The space between the tower and the caisson is sealed with concrete. The tower is white with a red band.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Micheál » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:53 pm

Thanks Jwdawk

Very interesting = & exactly as I remember it.

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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Enviro500 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:41 am

Definitely the Kish as built by Christiani & Nielson being flooated out to the Sandbank possibly June/July 1965
It is telescopic and was 'jacked up 'once placed on the bank..
I worked at Western Marine (then Bulloch Marine Traders) we were involved in a small way with the move with one of our tenders,
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby grammer » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:00 am

Yis are bang on with your posts re "The KIsh" there folks. .
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby bugrock » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:48 am

Ah, I remember it well. Watched the building of it, and was there the day they towed it out. Swedish engineering I think.
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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:09 am

Interesting - if it was 1964 then I was 11 years old when taking the photo with my "new" secondhand a Kodak Instamatic camera.


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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Micheál » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:34 pm

Navanman,
You've had a camera since you were 11??????
You're the one who should be facilitating the Camera Skills Without Photoshop stream :)

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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Navanman » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:00 am

Yes Micheál

If the Kish was 1964 then I was 11.

Got the camera secondhand in a "junkshop"

It was a simple point and shoot camera.

Used take the flash cubes if you remember them?

I never threw out the camera but it seemed to just disappear over the years.

Spent more money on developing the photos than the camera.

It was a great little camera - something like the disposable one syou see now.

Bought my next camera in Hamilton Longs chemist in O'Connell St. (wonder is it still there?)

Had load more features but the photos were no better to me anyway.

This camera has also disappeared (gremlins following me) but the flash on this was mounted on top and a wire to the side of the camera.

It was like a satellite dish that you opened out and you plugged in a different bulb everytime you took a flash photo.

Had to carry around flash bulbs with you all the time.

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Re: Navanmans Photos

Postby Micheál » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:38 pm

Hi Navanman

Flash Cubes - I'd long forgotten them. They'd take the hand off you if you touched them after shooting. If there were Health & Safety people around in those days, they'd have had a field day.

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