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Harbour through the Years

Postby Thomastown » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Hi Strum

I dont seem to be able to find "Harbour through the Years"

Any idea what happened to it.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:00 pm

Thomastown wrote:Hi Strum

I dont seem to be able to find "Harbour through the Years"

Any idea what happened to it.
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Sorry TT, I moved it. Here it is.

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Re: Harbour through the Years

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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Rocker » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:21 pm

Great bit of footage in that video. Wonder when that play was on. ? You are a great man for finding stuff.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby grammer » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:20 pm

Great vid. Strum.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:30 pm

Great I thought it may have been posted before but saw it today and heard local songwriter and singer William Byrne mentioned. I txt Will earlier and yes that was his Great Grandfather a survivor. Isn't it fantastic that he's carrying on the family tradition. Shine on Will. ;)
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Snowhite » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:57 pm

I'm sure that was on around 2013/14 The other chap mentioned in it is a relation of my friend Ann K and is a true story also.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Mon May 02, 2016 4:14 pm

Jem, a query from a different site. Any idea what the white boxes are? I'm guessing the one on the left is the extraction unit and the right appears to be a type of weather monitor? I'm only guessing though. Cheers. ;)


EDIT: I've heard since that they are Lidar wind measurement units. ;)



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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Jemser » Mon May 02, 2016 11:12 pm

Yes Strum, I really don''t know exactly what they are, but LIDAR wind measurement units are amazing technology and I suspect that is what they are. LIDAR has many other uses and if you are interested you should look it up its amazing. Sure isn't technology wonderful, you can get a weather report on Twitter from the Dublin Bay Buoy @dublinbaybuoy. Other buoys around the country can update you on all sorts of things like the Volvo ocean race, a yes the Information Age.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Tue May 03, 2016 12:21 am

Great read Jem, so important, we mortals don't even realise this technology. Cheers. ;)

I'll still trust the old divil you know. :lol:


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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby grammer » Tue May 03, 2016 12:22 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Rocker » Tue May 03, 2016 9:33 am

Thanks Jemser. I learn something every day on this site.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Wed May 18, 2016 7:41 pm

Quick question. How many Hobblers would have gone out at a time in those Skiffs?
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby skins » Wed May 18, 2016 8:28 pm

Four (I think).
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Wed May 18, 2016 8:57 pm

skins wrote:Four (I think).


+ coxswain?

It's impossible to imagine what conditions those brave men went out in. :shock:
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby skins » Wed May 18, 2016 9:47 pm

Don't think so, Strum......a cox would have been deadweight. The story of the 1934 disaster says that three were drowned, the fourth member had remained ashore to collect money they were owed.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Wed May 18, 2016 10:22 pm

Ok thanks Skins. ;)
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Snowhite » Wed May 18, 2016 11:44 pm

The boats carried four oars and a lugsail and was known as a two-ended open hobbling skiff. ;)


22nd February 1928 near the Baily Lighthouse. Three hobblers from Monkstown and Dún Laoghaire lost their lives when their boat was cut in two by the Dutch Steamer “Hesbaye”. They were Thomas Miller (60) and Richard Brennan (19) of Barrett Street and James Pluck of Lower George’s Street. The accident occurred between 4.30am and 5am. It was a very dark night and the hobblers had no light on their skiff. Captain Celis of the “Hesbaye”, a mariner of 42 years experience, said that he had heard cries of men at the side of his ship and had immediately launched the longboat, meanwhile, more Dún Laoghaire hobblers arrived on the scene in a boat owned by Patrick Shortall and joined in the search but all in vain. When the search proved fruitless Shortall and his crew sailed to another steamer at anchor off Dún Laoghaire and its crew informed him that they had sighted wreckage inside the Burford Bank. He made a search of the area and found an oar and a seat, which he recognized as belonging to Thomas Miller’s boat. Two other local men were lost at sea while hobbling; their names were Harry Shortall and “Rover” Ward, and they were drowned on 23rd January 1916; the third member of the crew; Richard Shortall, was saved. Harry Shortall was an uncle of the two young boys drowned in 1934; his body was never recovered.

One wonders why these brave men ventured out to sea in their open skiffs, often in adverse weather conditions and at great risk to their lives. But as Mrs. Kavanagh (a sister of the Shortall brothers) put it “sure it was the only living they had”. There was also a certain amount of rivalry among the hobblers and it was often a question of who got there first. Consequently, some of them would spend a day and a night at sea in the hope of locating a ship. It was not unknown for them to sail out as far as Bray. Depending on the size of the ship the hobblers were paid anything from £1.50 up to £5.00. When a ship was located a hook was cast over its side from a standing position. This was hazardous and any mistake could mean loss of life. Moreover most of the hobblers were non-swimmers and seldom carried life-saving equipment.

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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Rocker » Thu May 19, 2016 1:40 am

That is a great story Snowy. For years I have looked at that monument and think of those brave men. It was a very tough job.A noble tradition in Dún Laoghaire. My parents always spoke highly of those men. Isn't it amazing that a lot of those extended families still live in the area. My pal is a grand niece of Richard Brennan.

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I like this description of the Hobbler's monument

The bronze sculpture is made out of 64 life sized life jackets in the shape of a tower. It stands as a memorial to the tragic deaths of numerous hobblers who risked all to earn what little they could.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Strum » Thu May 19, 2016 2:21 am

Ah yes Snowy, thanks for posting the article again. ;)
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Rocker » Thu May 19, 2016 9:57 am

I love Ann Robinson's blog about the coastline. This is good for monuments along the seafront and their history.

http://coastmonkey.ie/dun-laoghaire-maritime-guide/
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Zirco » Thu May 19, 2016 11:08 am

Tks Snowhite for the post on the hobblers.....great info there. And Rocker, the Ann Robinson link re the coastal monuments is very good. So much great local knowledge shared on this Forum.....brill wuu wuu wuu
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby keeper » Thu May 19, 2016 8:57 pm

Enjoying a very interesting book by Joe Murphy, Ringsend Boatbuilder and Master Shipwright, a Ringsend man, great old photos and his recollection of old stories heard from the generations before him. He worked for the Port and Docks.
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Rocker » Fri May 20, 2016 12:46 am

keeper wrote:Enjoying a very interesting book by Joe Murphy, Ringsend Boatbuilder and Master Shipwright, a Ringsend man, great old photos and his recollection of old stories heard from the generations before him. He worked for the Port and Docks.


Must have a look out for that keeper. I have got back into the reading now I've retired and am stuck in a book as often as I can. Love the old stories.

I have only been to one lecture by Cormac Lowth but was so impressed that I looked up this long but fascinating article on Maritime Art and Dún Laoghaire on lugnad.ie site

http://lugnad.ie/maritime-art-and-dun-laoghaire/
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Re: Harbour through the Years

Postby Snowhite » Sat May 21, 2016 12:17 am

keeper wrote:Enjoying a very interesting book by Joe Murphy, Ringsend Boatbuilder and Master Shipwright, a Ringsend man, great old photos and his recollection of old stories heard from the generations before him. He worked for the Port and Docks.



Must look out for that Book in the Library ;)
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