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Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Gulliver » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:11 pm

This site, http://www.dunlaoghairecounty.ie is a great resource of local history.....but the history is dispersed under various topics and interspersed with great comments which were hugely relevant at the time. In short, it's a teeny bit disorganized when it comes to history. The same is true of other discussion site(s)

There are Facebook sites which have loads of local history also. They tend to have particular topics each for a couple of days, and then the topic gets lost very soon - and they have even more comments.

I'm thinking that it would be great to have a place where the local history elements which come up on all sites could be transferred to a permanent home in a manner which is well organized and well disciplined to keep the focus. If this were done, I could foresee the creation of a massive resource which would have tremendous value and create lots of local interest in our heritage. This would be far more interesting than any publication currently on the market in the field of local history. And I think I know how it could be done!

What I have in mind is the creation of a Dun Laoghaire Wiki. We might call it "The Annals of Dun Laoghaire" For those who are not familiar with the term, a Wiki is a website created by a collaboration of a number of authors, using easy to edit systems and minimal requirement for training of authors. Usually, Wikis are open for anyone to join, but obviously there must be some element of editorial control to prevent abuse. Wikipedia is the prime example of a Wiki, but there are many other Wikis and the term Wiki is not always in the name of the site. I am not aware of any instance of a wiki being created which is specific to a town, but there's always a first.

I would suggest that the wiki might grow to have
1 LOCATIONS...a wiki page devoted to every street, road, park, or other location, indicating its history, the history of the name, and links to famous residents, and events on that street
2 PEOPLE...a wiki page on every famous resident, with links back to his street and to events he was involved in
3 EVENTS...a wiki page on every significant event, linking back to streets and residents
and various other categories of page types

Certain rules would apply - the following are some starters
I would suggest that it should not carry advertising, either direct advertising or otherwise. There are other ways to fund the very small expense involved.
I would suggest that it should be confined to past events - with no reference to current or future events - but past events could include things that happened last week if appropriate
Great care should be taken where there are references to living persons
As a general rule most entries should be supported by evidence, but there are many "folklore-type" stories which are worth recording

Does anybody think this is a crazy idea? or a good one? Would people be prepared to participate? Would you? Would it help sites like this one and others?

These are a few thought-starters. Let me know what you think!
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Dancer » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:20 pm

That's a wonderful idea Gulliver. I found THIS when I did a search
but it is very limited .
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby slipper » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:34 pm

Hi Gul,

Just read your proposal and I have to say fair play to you for the thought you put into it. I've just become a junior member here and a lot of what goes on computerwise sails high over my head (I'm computer thick) but in the short time I've been here I've read so many brilliant posts from some very learned and some very funny contributors that I believe you'll get a big response re proposal. Sorry to say I'll have to sit on the fence because of my comparative ignorance but, when I learn more from the responses I'll be happy to forward an opinion. 'Till then I wish you well and thank you. Slipper.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Micheál » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:06 pm

Gulliver,

I think this would be very worthwhile and the 'entities' of event, people, place seem ideal. The wiki frameworks would overcome many of the shotcomings you so diplomatically describe in BBs and Social Media generally. And theres lots of good software solutions out there.

My only concerns would be - in common with other Wikis -
how to control or facilitate contentious interpretations of the past.
How to prevent those with present day agendas ( worthy or not) from hyjacking history for their own ends
The degree to which copyright might constrain authentic content

It seems to me that youd need a strong Editorial Policies on how political, religious and social affairs are dealt with ( or not).

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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Strum » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:57 pm

Great idea Gulliver. Michael if it were to have a few admins, if that's possible, you could decide between yourselves what to allow so as to keep it as authentic as possible.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby grammer » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:53 am

Brilliant Idea Gulliver
Michael and Strum I agree with you both
If there is close policing of the site it would be blxxxxxdy great
count me in -I agree in advance with whatever policies and formats are that are decided.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Micheál » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:06 am

grammer wrote:Brilliant Idea Gulliver
Michael and Strum I agree with you both
If there is close policing of the site it would be blxxxxxdy great
count me in -I agree in advance with whatever policies and formats are that are decided.

Im guessing one of the policies will be "You cant say blxxxxxdy"
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby grammer » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:15 am

Well that's bl........fine by me, :lol: :lol: :lol: seriously tho'
it's a great idea and a project well worth putting a lot of planning into
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Rocker » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:42 am

What a great idea Gulliver. It is very important that facts and "tall tales" are recorded while there are still people around who remember the facts.

Basic facts are important too...I was struck by Grammer putting up info this morning about how high Sallynoggin is above sea level ...
local heros are important too...I was warmed last week that a young girl would come here seeking snippets about her grandfather and delighted that she got great info there and then.

I love the title "Annals of Dún Laoghaire".

I don't know a huge amount about the place but would be willing to help out. It sounds like a huge project but no better time than now to start.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby skins » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:58 pm

Sounds a great idea, but then again I have no knowledge of these Wiki sites, how they work or how they are policed. For instance, if I make a statement such as "There once lived a b....y b....x named Grammer in Sallynoggin", will it just bring up a notation saying (citation needed)?
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby grammer » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:19 pm

skins wrote:Sounds a great idea, but then again I have no knowledge of these Wiki sites, how they work or how they are policed. For instance, if I make a statement such as "There once lived a b....y b....x named Grammer in Sallynoggin", will it just bring up a notation saying (citation needed)?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
you forgot the word "little"
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Sinead » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:10 pm

This sounds like a good project. Will it follow on the lines
of the published 'Annals of Dublin'? Which is a very factual
publication?

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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Gulliver » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:22 am

I would hope that it would be very factual.
I would love to think that it would be eventually published as a large and high-quality book. There is nothing like a book for ensuring that it will be preserved for future generations
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby keeper » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:53 pm

Great idea Gulliver ! Huge undertaking but eventual outcome in book form sounds very interesting. I hope you manage to get it up and running, it would be a lasting legacy for us to leave for future generations.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Denis Cromie » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:43 pm

I think that is a great idea Gulliver. Like Slipper I'm not sure I'd be of much of a technical help but whatever I could do I would.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Snowhite » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:55 pm

Sounds Good ;)
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby bugrock » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:25 am

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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Gulliver » Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:34 pm

Seem to me there is universal support for the idea. Maybe we should get together a few of us over a pint or coffee sometime soon to work out some details.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Rocker » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:51 pm

Gulliver wrote:Seem to me there is universal support for the idea. Maybe we should get together a few of us over a pint or coffee sometime soon to work out some details.


Sounds good. Include me in.
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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Navanman » Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:52 pm

Gulliver
I think you are on to something very good there. It is just a matter of controling the content without being accused of selective editing.

You are correct in saying there is a lot of terriffic information out there (both here and on facebook) but it does get "lost" after a while.

It can be very hard to keep topics in the correct place and indeed many topics do cross into each other for various reasons.

I have said here before it would be lovely for people here to put up the story of D/L when they were "young". Who they played with, what they played, where they played, cars they drove, etc.

I personally think, although it may be a bit personal, it is still a great bit of nostalgia for younger people. It seems to generate interest here and on facebook.

Just my tuppance woth.



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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Sinead » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:08 pm

Navanman, your suggestion is great. My first memory of
being in a car was an Armstrong Sidley.

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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Navanman » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:36 am

I never heard of an Armstrong Sidley Sinead


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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Strum » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:53 pm

Me neither NM so I googled them. Wow! :o :o

Very posh Sinead. :D


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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Sinead » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:15 pm

You could fit a lot of people into a car like this.

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Re: Annals of Dun Laoghaire

Postby Dancer » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:00 pm

Strum wrote:Me neither NM so I googled them. Wow! :o :o

Very posh Sinead. :D


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That's just beautiful!! If it had white wall tyres , it would be perfect :D

Lucky you Sínead, to travel in such style :mrgreen:
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