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Postby georges » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:45 pm

:?: :?: did we really need a new library
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Postby Strum » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Welcome to the site Georges. A good question that and has been discussed here before.
Try the search feature up right and you should find info.
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Re: library

Postby Rocker » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:11 am

As this is introductions only I'll say hello Georges and welcome to the site. We have all vented our opinion on Moran Park etc about the library. Go on! Get us going again!
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Re: library

Postby Gulliver » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:46 am

I think this thread got started in the wrong place - but it's a worthwhile thread - maybe Strum will move it to the right place

My comments relate to the existing library.
I recently rejoined the library after an absence of some years. (It's free, of course..... just bring along ID which links to your address (e.g. a utility bill)
The stock of books on the shelves is not immediately exciting, but the staff are very helpful, and will source almost any book on request.
Inside the front door to the right is the local history collection, which is a particular interest for me. It is opened only on request, but contains almost every known book of local interest and a large collection of books of broader Irish interest. It has a large collection of directories, either in book form or on microfilm. The collkection of photographs of local interest is disappointing

I was pleasently surprised, however, by the range of online services available from your library ticket.
Firstly, it gives you access to online newspapers from Ireland and the world. Among Irish daily newspapers, it gives the Independent and the Mail, as well as a collection of local newspapers (Bray people etc). These are not laid out as webpages like www.independent.ie, but rather are the full newspaper format. Useless for people with a small screen, but great for my large 21" screen.... The same service from www.independent.ie costs €250 per annum just for that paper.... and there are hundreds of other online newspapers free here from all parts of the world free on your DLR library ticket.

Then you have a large range of online audio books which you can download to your PC or other device. You can hold up to 12 at any time, and they will self-destruct in three weeks (unless you renew them)
The online reference library includes the Dictionary of Irish Biography - a massive Who Was Who of Irish people.

All in all, a very useful service...... but as more and more of it is online, what is the likely future for library buildings?
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Re: library

Postby Navanman » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:39 pm

I suspect what georges is asking is do we need a NEW Library.

The services offered by Libraries goes far beyond lending books these days.

It is a great place to sit down read and relax in silence.

For the elderly you can go in sit down in a bit of heat during the Winter and read the daily newspaper

Children go in there in groups to study for exams

The Libraries bring in guest story tellers and book readers to introduce children to the magic of books and your imagination.

I remember buying Ladybird books for my children when they were small. They were probably £2 but they got months if not a couple of years enjoyment out of each and every book.

They loved going into the local Library every week or two and looking for a couple of books.

I would say we definately need a Library. It is an educational experience not to be missed and that cannot be replaced with Kindles.

But do we need a NEW Library - that is another question.
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Re: library

Postby Gulliver » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:16 pm

You will find a development plan for the library here (an undated draft plan for 2010-=2013). This does not include a description and plans for the actual facilities to be provided.
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/library/2010LibDevPro.pdf
The library’s own website did not think it worthwhile to update us since June 2011
Some plans for the centre are shown on this site, which is looking for tenders for public art in the centre
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/arts/central_library_public_art_commission.htm
There is a very high-level summary here
http://www.dlrcoco.ie/library/CentralLibraryUpdate_april2012.pdf

The council does not seem to have made much of an effort to explain the expenditure of €36m+ and/or what we get for that expenditure
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Re: library

Postby Rocker » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:53 am

I hadn't been down the seafront for ages so on 14 October went for a wander. Couldn't believe the size of the new Library complex..massive....

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Re: library

Postby spudseamus » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:11 am

I didn't think there were that many book worms in Dun laoghaire!!!!! wuu
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Re: library

Postby Gulliver » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:38 am

I think that if you check back against original plans (some links to original plans in a previous post are now broken) you will find that the plans have grown by a few extra floors. Rumour has it that these are to accommodate the new council which will outgrow the Council Chamber when it's numbers grow from 26 to 40 as a result of local government re-organisation.
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Re: library

Postby Micheál » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:23 pm

spudseamus wrote:I didn't think there were that many book worms in Dun laoghaire!!!!! wuu


What are books?

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Re: library

Postby Micheál » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:29 pm

Gulliver wrote:I think that if you check back against original plans (some links to original plans in a previous post are now broken) you will find that the plans have grown by a few extra floors. Rumour has it that these are to accommodate the new council which will outgrow the Council Chamber when it's numbers grow from 26 to 40 as a result of local government re-organisation.


Probable a Cultural Centre too aka a Councillor's Bar

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Re: library

Postby Strum » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:27 pm

Looks like another D/L Shopping Centre. I bet the Royal Marine people aren't too happy about it.
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Re: library

Postby Micheál » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:53 pm

From a purely architectural point of view, I'm reasonably content with the height. It should counter-balance the (unacceptable) dominance of the Shopping Centre when viewed from the piers.

Alas, the "planners" back in the day seemed to have had a deathwish for the skyline and streetscape of the seafront.

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Ballyeighan (?) appartments

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Re: library

Postby spudseamus » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:29 am

Micheál wrote:
spudseamus wrote:I didn't think there were that many book worms in Dun laoghaire!!!!! wuu


What are books?

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Sorry Micheal ! Buuk to you! wuu
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Re: library

Postby Micheál » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:55 am

spudseamus wrote:
Micheál wrote:
spudseamus wrote:I didn't think there were that many book worms in Dun laoghaire!!!!! wuu


What are books?

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Sorry Micheal ! Buuk to you! wuu


Aaaah . . . Bewks!

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Re: library

Postby Gulliver » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:47 am

I haven't heard any recent reports on the cost and/or overruns. I suspect that somewhere in a filing drawer there is a shocking report on those costs which has yet to see the light of day
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Re: library

Postby Holla » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:06 am

Moran park is now gone and the only time we will hear mention of it will be in the address of Dun laoghaire library Moran park Dun laoghaire,just aswell you people got some good photos of the place.
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Re: library

Postby Rocker » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:22 am

Holla wrote:Moran park is now gone and the only time we will hear mention of it will be in the address of Dun laoghaire library Moran park Dun laoghaire,just aswell you people got some good photos of the place.


I was thinking just that Holla. When they were taking down Christ the King I wondered where it was to be relocated in the new park!!wonder where now...I must go down and have a look at the up to date plans..Dread to think of the overrun...I think they are still going ahead with the glass box in the County Hall to accommodate the increased Council Chamber.
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Re: library

Postby Sinead » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

Heard to-day that work has stopped on the Library 'cause they have
run out of money! Anyone else hear this?

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Re: library

Postby Strum » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:07 pm

Sinead wrote:Heard to-day that work has stopped on the Library 'cause they have
run out of money! Anyone else hear this?

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Same happened with the Shopping Centre. No construction for a couple of years if I remember correctly.
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Re: library

Postby spudseamus » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:42 pm

You cannot be serious ???? A big project and ongoing funding for completion was not secured at the beginning?? Omg!
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Re: library

Postby Strum » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:58 pm

What's new Spud. Lack of foresight as usual.
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Re: library

Postby Toss » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:19 pm

Strum wrote:What's new Spud. Lack of foresight as usual.


Dont worry ..... they can just up the local taxes and add a few new ones, for example:

Visitor tax: not from the borough? that will be €5 please

Photo tax: want to take some photos? annual photography licence €10

Cycle tax: avoiding paying parking costs by cycling are we sir? that will be €3 per day bicycle permit

Public Seating tax: taking the weight off your feet by sitting on our park benches are you madam? that will be €1 please

anyone got any more ideas ...... :D
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Re: library

Postby bugrock » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:34 pm

Bring back the pay as you sit dunnys on Marine Road.
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Postby Micheál » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:31 am

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