Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

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Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:12 pm

Hi

I am researching Ardcuaine Estate it appears on the Ordinance Survey Map: (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,724629,726779,6,9). It used to stand in the area that is now, Hillcourt Park, Glenageary.

I remember in the early 1960s that the estate had a gate lodge on Upper Glenageary Road which was back to back to the existing gate lodge of Rathdown School. The lodge led onto a long avenue which ended at a large house which was burned out. In the driveway in front of the house was a burnt out car that was rusting away. It seemed to be an American make, because of it size and shape. There was a large field in front of the house and an orchard at the left hand side of the house. I heard that the house burned out in the 1950s. The house was eventually raised to the ground and Hillcourt Park was developed in the late sixties on the grounds of the old estate.

I wonder if anybody remembers this house or can provide me with any information or can suggest where I would find more information.

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Rocker » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:29 pm

Great project......don't know the house at all....bit of googling unearthed this grave in mount Jerome

Alexander Comyn who lived there.

http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/ ... rome28.txt

his death as reported
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bi ... --1----0--

maybe his family in 1901 living in Queen's Park

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... k/1314219/
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Micheál » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:16 pm

Hi Ardcion

Have been passing the gate lodge every day of my adult life. I even contemplated buying it (the lodge) when it was on the market in the 80s. And all that time I never knew or even heard of Ardcuaine.

Two references of note -

A Broderick family lived there back in the 1920s. They gave evidence at the Inquest to Noel Lemass. A very interesting read in itself http://irishvolunteers.org/2013/01/noel-lemass/

I'm not sure when exactly but back in the 1800s,a John Halligan, Ard Cuaine, Glenageary, was a contributor to the Third report of the Commissioners on University Education (Ireland)

British Parlimentary Papers fragment -
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://eppi.dippam.ac.uk/documents/20229/eppi_pages/556864


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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:26 pm

Thanks very much Rocker and Micheál for your help.
This information is very helpful
The search continues.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:42 pm

Glenageary between the 1930s and 1960s


I have checked through newspaper archives in my quest for more information relating to Ardcuaine, Upper Glenageary Road.

The first reference to the Estate I could find was from the Freeman’s Journal in 1859 and the last reference was from the Irish Times in 1932 when its 6 acres and gate lodge were auctioned by Battersbys, Westmoreland Street, Dublin.

I am interested in finding out more information about this estate, especially from the 1930s to the sixties

If there is anyone out there who lived in Glenageary between the 30s and 60s or knows anyone, who could fill in the gaps by providing any information about the estate I would be most grateful.

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Gulliver » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:37 pm

In Griffiths Valuation Ardcuine is listed as property No 10 Thomastown in the name of Thomas Mulhall as Lessee from Lord De Vesci and shown on the Griffiths 1870 map on http://www.askaboutireland.ie.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:04 pm

Thanks Gulliver.

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:51 am

Cul Aoibhin 1932 to 1950s

I have been informed that the name of the house was changed to Cul Aoibhin, possibly in the 1930s and the gate lodge was called Coolevin Lodge (sold in 1967)

Does anyone remember a house called Cul Aoibhin, Glenageary in the 1950s or recalls a fire that destroyed it in about 1955?

Your assistance would be appreciated.

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Micheál » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:52 am

Thoms Directory 1918
Kingstown - Glenageary
Broderick, R. J., Ardcuaine
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Micheál » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:29 am

More on the Brodericks of Ardcuaine - and a family picture!
(I bet that dogs name is "Judge")

Image

http://www.sineadmccoole.com/gonebutnotforgotten%5C/civil_war/activists-by-area.htm#glenageary

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby slipper » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:12 pm

Miceal.

In the 50's there was a house at the top of the swans hollow on the right hand side adjacent to Rathdown School named Cooleevin House. It had a small gate lodge and a driveway of perhaps 200 metres.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby slipper » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:57 pm

It is very interesting to read the Broderick family's submissions re the Lemass murder as it brings to mind the terrible things that happen in all wars but,I think civil war is particularly brutal I find it very moving when I read the names of places and people that are familiar to me and of course are recognisably irish. As a boy in the 50s I stayed with family friends in Coolevin House.They didn't own the house but rented a three roomed flat at the back on the ground floor that opened onto a small garden/courtyard.The description of the place given above is accurate...if memory serves me well...I can't remember the front of the house at all and I think its because I was instructed to only use a side entrance but I do recall the ploughed field out front and a well manicured lawn to one side with a garden shed on it. I also remember sitting on a wall watching the girls from the school next door playing.The gate lodge was rented by a country couple who had a baby girl and I believe their name was Breslin or Broslin.This info may not serve to enlighten for historical purposes its just that a question was posed and it triggered a memory.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Rocker » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:23 pm

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:17 am

Thanks Micheál,

Great photograph and a very interesting historical article. It is difficult to believe that Glenageary was ever considered rural being so close to Dun Laoghaire.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:42 am

Thanks Slipper for relating your memories of Ardcuaine/Cooolevin.It must have been a substantial building in its heyday; more’s the pity that it eventually fell to ruin.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Wed May 07, 2014 11:23 am

Re: Dublin Broadcasting Station

Hi
Could anyone advise me where I can find information about the Dublin Broadcasting Station which existed in the 1940s? I am particularly interested in finding information about Seumas Hughes the first announcer and Assistant Director of the Dublin Broadcasting Station, who lived in Coolevin previously called Ardcuaine, Glenageary, in the 1940s.

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby skins » Wed May 07, 2014 1:53 pm

Ardcion,

The national broadcaster started off here as 2RN, and later became Radio Eireann. There's a photo of Seamus Hughes here:
http://archive.today/0oHS
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Rocker » Wed May 07, 2014 1:54 pm

Don't know anything about seamus Hughes but a quick google found this military history account and there is mention of a Seamus Hughes on page 16....you probably have this already..

http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/r ... WS0877.pdf
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby skins » Wed May 07, 2014 5:11 pm

Ardcion,

If you Google "seamus hughes" radio eireann, you'll come across several references to him. In particular note a man named Thomas J. Morrissey who appears to have written a book about his life.
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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Ardcion » Tue May 13, 2014 12:26 pm

Sir George Abraham Grierson

Thank you, Skins and Rocker for all the information on Seamas Hughes.

It appears that Mr Hughes's political perspective contrasted certain previous inhabitants of Ardcuaine.
The earliest inhabitant of Ardcuaine was George Grierson who I presume had the house built. I think that he is the same George Grierson who was the printer in Dublin to Queen Victoria who was married to Isabella Ruxon daughter of Henry Ruxon of the Royal Navy

http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/printable/33572
https://www.tcd.ie/Secretary/FellowsSch ... ierson.pdf

His son was Sir George Abraham Grierson OM KCIE, linguistic scholar and administrator in the Indian civil service who gathered information on 364 Indian languages and dialects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Abraham_Grierson

He was born in Glenageary in 1851. I presume he would have been born at Ardcuaine as I am not aware of any maternity hospital in Glenageary in the 19th century. Maybe someone on this forum could confirm the above.
Sir George after his time in India lived in Camberley, England. He called his house ‘Rathfarnham’ after his grandfather’s castle in Co. Dublin. His grandfather was another George Grierson, a Scottish-born printer and publisher in Dublin who was the King’s printer in Ireland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Grierson_(printer)

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Re: Hillcourt Park, formerly Ardcuaine Estate, Glenageary.

Postby Rocker » Tue May 13, 2014 12:43 pm

Really interesting stuff there Ardcoin,

never knew of the Griersons....found this on the archive of rootsweb...long but a huge history of a family...
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1196700354

In the listing for Mount Jerome Cemetry...Yvonne Russell has given details of the Comyns who also lived at Glenageary and from 4083 details of various Griersons in a family plot,

http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/ ... rome28.txt
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