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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:10 am

Anyone looking for family who may have gone to America on famine ships 1846 to 1851 may have some luck here.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2110821
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Re: Family History

Postby Navanman » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:54 am

Am trying to find out why great great grandfather ended up in Artane Boys Home and any relations. Presume the records are around.


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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:18 am

That might be a tough one Navanman. Artane would have been run by the Christian brothers. There might be a central number for the CB. I saw on another board where Barnardos were recommended.
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Re: Family History

Postby Micheál » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:44 pm

CB Archive used to be in Marino or Baldoyle, as far as I recollect.
Might even be in the same premises as former Industrial School

Btw. Artane also took day pupils from the suuounding neighbourhoods so being a pupil is not as 'interesting' as being a resident. Dont know if this was always that way.

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Re: Family History

Postby grammer » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:02 pm

Navanman wrote:Am trying to find out why great great grandfather ended up in Artane Boys Home and any relations. Presume the records are around.


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Maybe he wanted to learn how to play the trumpet or drums in the band. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Family History

Postby Sinead » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:56 pm

Many children were put into institutes/industrial schools if:
the parents couldn't cope,
one or other parent died,
there was no breadwinner,
truancy,
petty theft - etc., etc., etc.

If you can google the tribunal on industrial abuse findings you might find a reference
to where the records are stored. Search the National Archives as well.

In Artane, boys were given all sorts of trades - boot/shoe making, baking

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Re: Family History

Postby Navanman » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:29 pm

Very close Sinead

From what we gather (and I hope I have this right)

Wife died early 30's' leaving husband and about 6? children (boys and girls?).

Husband could not cope so children sent to Artane Boys Home.

Husband charged and jailed because he could not pay Artane Boys Home for "minding children"

Children learned Bootmaker Trade.


Now the research!!!


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Re: Family History

Postby Dancer » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:21 pm

Navanman wrote:Very close Sinead

From what we gather (and I hope I have this right)

Wife died early 30's' leaving husband and about 6? children (boys and girls?).

Husband could not cope so children sent to Artane Boys Home.

Husband charged and jailed because he could not pay Artane Boys Home for "minding children"

Children learned Bootmaker Trade.


Now the research!!!




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That's terrible - the poor man. Not only does he lose his wife and then have his children taken from him but then the
Bast@rds put him in jail :shock: :shock: :shock: Jesus H Christ that's abominable :cry:
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Re: Family History

Postby Navanman » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:55 pm

Yes Dancer.

And I was hoping we would have a gangster in the ancesters.

What we don't know is why other family members did not help.

When I was young many of the children were raised by their Grannys or lived with their Grannys.

So, although I never realised it at the time, their parents probably could not afford to raise them.

Look up the "maiden lovers" in the Irish Lights. They are our relations as well. That is a brilliant story of 2 families of two different religions and their children falling in love. Apparently they were living on the 2 lighthouses in sight of each other and the son and daughter ran away together. You will have to read the story to see what happened next.

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Re: Family History

Postby Sinead » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:27 pm

NM,
Your ancestor must have been in good employment when the
children were put in the Orphanage otherwise he would not
have been liable for a charge. There has to have been some
underlying problem that he was sued for the charges. This
might also explain why no family member took the children
in.

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Re: Family History

Postby Navanman » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:39 pm

Would love to know. My sister and cousin are doing the research.

The staff in Geneological Society have been extremely helpful to them.

Sometimes it generates more questions than answers but that is the excitement of it.


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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:05 pm

Navanman wrote:Look up the "maiden lovers" in the Irish Lights. They are our relations as well. That is a brilliant story of 2 families of two different religions and their children falling in love. Apparently they were living on the 2 lighthouses in sight of each other and the son and daughter ran away together. You will have to read the story to see what happened next.

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Nosey me...can't find the story could you give the link. I only love other people's stories......
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Re: Family History

Postby Navanman » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:28 pm

Rocker
I am trying to find it again myself.

There is a tiny bit about it here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maidens_lighthouses


My sister was doing a family tree and drove up to Belfast to meet the decendents of the other family and they were lovely to her and her husband.


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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:02 pm

Thanks for that Navanman.

Did I ever tell the story about going down to the Glencree Centre for Reconcillation to find out about my father's family who were from around there years back. We met some locals and they were so disinterested when we said we were on a search for details of the family. Oh yeah and a big shrug of the shoulders...they one said what is the name and when i gave it...we got the big hugs all round...were brought for tea and apparently my gang were difficult characters ...they wouldn't succumb to the big estate...had their own little upland farm ....I know now where I got me bolshie side from........
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Re: Family History

Postby Micheál » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:17 pm

Rocker wrote: . . . . We met some locals and they were so disinterested when we said we were on a search for details of the family. Oh yeah and a big shrug of the shoulders.....


They probably took you for Dept of Agriculture or Revenue
First Rule of Field Work for genealogists - declare yourself up front

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Re: Family History

Postby Gulliver » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:42 am

The February edition of Ireland's Genealogical Gazette can be read or downloaded by clicking http://familyhistory.ie/wp/irelands-gen ... l-gazette/
The February edition of Irish Lives Remembered can be read by clicking http://www.irishlivesremembered.com/
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Re: Family History

Postby Holla » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:06 pm

Thanks Gulliver ;)
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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:29 am

Thank you gulliver. I really enjoy those.
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Re: Family History

Postby Gulliver » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:45 pm

Births, Marriages, deaths - new online facilities from this evening

The Irish index of Births, Marriages and Deaths goes online this evening in a new and enhanced format.
It includes births of up to 18 years ago, and deaths up to a year or two ago. Not sure how up-to-date marriages are
It's a bit clunky to get information out of it, due to the law not having been changed - but it's nevertheless a great help.
Some of the information was already on the Mormons site, but this is more comprehensive.
Find it on http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
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Re: Family History

Postby Rocker » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:35 pm

Wow...that is much better site now. Thanks Gulliver...no sleep tonight.
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Re: Family History

Postby Holla » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:00 am

Thanks Gulliver,I put some definite dates in and its showing "no results found"?
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Re: Family History

Postby Sinead » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Holla:

I got the same until I refined my requests, then it was
fantastic. All sorts of info came up on the screen.

Thanks Gullivar.

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Re: Family History

Postby grammer » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:18 am

Great site -
bit iffy at times -but overall -great.
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Re: Family History

Postby 12345 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:38 pm

Fantastic site - thank you Gulliver, found lots of information on there in a roundabout way !
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Re: Family History

Postby Micheál » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:51 pm

Hey "Oner"
In this Forum, "in a roundabout way" could mean
A) indirectly ( mostly)
B) expensively and wasteful of resources ( esp. In Killiney)

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