The Harbour Through The Years

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Zirco » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:16 pm

Rocker wrote:Here is a wonderful song about the Leinster by William Byrne I think it was his Gt Grandfather who was the stoker on the Leinster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=u7182MkaCSY


It is indeed a lovely song about the tragedy...to think it happened near the Kish so close to land and yet so many lives lost....awful.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:12 pm

Nothing to do with the Harbour but...

What do you call these folks? They could be just mass made souvenirs or something like that? All I know about them is that Ship builders would make them as a kind of 3D blueprint, but even that could be wrong? I have seen them over the years in various places and some quite large, these are small, 15" x 6"
I found them in a Skip outside the Elfin Hotel under restoration for The Port View, about 1996, they were really wrecked, no pun, I could barely see the numbers and writing, and I restored the paintwork as best I could. They have been in a shed for years. I might touch them up again.
Thanks for any info. ;)



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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:02 am

They look like some kind of pattern for building the ship. You are some man to keep them. The throw away generation has skipped all the great objects. Hope someone knows about these.

Here is a project for the Winter

https://books.google.ie/books?id=PsrCAg ... ke&f=false

Here are some interesting regulations from 1968

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1968 ... e/en/print

A Glossary of Shipbuilding Terms

http://www.pomorci.com/Skole/Recnici/Gl ... 0Terms.pdf
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Micheál » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:45 pm

Heres an interesting entry from the Census. A sole family at the West Pier.
Fathers occupation was, not surprisingly, a Lighthouse keeper.
I wonder did they live in that now derilict building beside the lighthouse, or somewhere near the Sailing School?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__1/West_Pier/99087/
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Holla » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:05 pm

Micheál wrote:Heres an interesting entry from the Census. A sole family at the West Pier.
Fathers occupation was, not surprisingly, a Lighthouse keeper.
I wonder did they live in that now derilict building beside the lighthouse, or somewhere near the Sailing School?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__1/West_Pier/99087/

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They moved around a bit as you can see from place of birth for the children,and they weren't going into their fathers trade
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:13 pm

I had asked about that house here before Michael but got no responses. I can only assume it was the Light keeper's residence.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby grammer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:45 am

Interesting -have to say I never heard of anyone -(light keeper -living on the West Pier)
Maybe Jemser can through some light :roll: :roll: :roll: on this.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Jemser » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:34 am

Very interesting, I can't throw any light on it (pun intended) I am beaming with curiously and incandescent with rage on my lack of information. But it was common for light keepers families to live at the lighthouses.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:48 pm

Cheers Skins. ;)
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:45 pm

Fascinating photo this, for me anyway because the family facing the camera are the O' Neill's, a family I grew up with, and I've never seen a photo of them all together before. Scoop's Son Kevin back to the camera, some of you may have known the mother Carmel from Glasthule.That's Luke Kelly at the back. I think they lived in Rosslare for a while before coming back to Dublin so I'm guessing that's it? Could be the Liffey though. I'd say 1967/68 going by the ages they look. Any ideas about it?


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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Holla » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:04 pm

Today we remember the men of the Kingstown lifeboat which capsized with the loss of 15 lives while trying to rescue the crew of the SS Palme ,May all of those who lost their lives on Christmas eve 1895 rest in peace.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:14 pm

Holla wrote:Today we remember the men of the Kingstown lifeboat which capsized with the loss of 15 lives while trying to rescue the crew of the SS Palme ,May all of those who lost their lives on Christmas eve 1895 rest in peace.


May these brave men always be remembered.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Denis Cromie » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:48 am

Holla wrote:Today we remember the men of the Kingstown lifeboat which capsized with the loss of 15 lives while trying to rescue the crew of the SS Palme ,May all of those who lost their lives on Christmas eve 1895 rest in peace.


Good to remember all those who risk their lives for others.R.I.P.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby grammer » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:49 pm

Came across this :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Holla » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:22 pm

Great find grammer, I enjoyed watchin that,thanks for sharing
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Zirco » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:25 pm

grammer wrote:Came across this





What brave men they were......very informative and moving video.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:40 am

Grammer, that is marvellous. Enjoyed it . Very moving too. Thank God there are such brave Lifeboat persons ready to set sail at a moment's notice.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Jemser » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:07 am

Grammer, really enjoyed watching that documentary. Thanks for posting.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Snowhite » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:55 pm

That was a great find Grammer, I must go back down to The Mariner's Museum and checkout the Lifeboat replicas I didn't notice them before but then I was really only there to look at an exhibit for the Lockout, does anyone know who were the members of the Lifeboat Crew that survived ??
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby keeper » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:10 am

Thanks Grammer, enjoyed that, thanks, I'm sure the Maritime would have the names of all involved including survivors.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby grammer » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:51 am

Snowhite wrote:That was a great find Grammer, I must go back down to The Mariner's Museum and checkout the Lifeboat replicas I didn't notice them before but then I was really only there to look at an exhibit for the Lockout, does anyone know who were the members of the Lifeboat Crew that survived ??

I have googled a couple of times -But did'nt find anything Snowy dontknow dontknow
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:01 pm

My understanding is that all members of the lifeboat "the civil service number 7" were lost. The older lifeboat " Hannah Pickard" went to assist, capsized and when righted went into Vance's harbour in Blackrock I think all lifeboat members of this Hannah Pickard survived.

Micheal mentioned that Cormac lowth has an article in the Historical Society Journal about the Palme.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Gulliver » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:20 pm

Zirco wrote:Can I ask you re the Glasthule Quarry?.......
Was there a funicular section at the slope at the quarry entrance? :D :D :D

According to Rob Goodbody's book, "The Metals" the quarry variously called the Glasstool or Glasthule Quarry was the quarry in the spot where the People's Park now stands. There was a small spur of the Metals into the quarry, but there is no mention of a funicular element to it. Indeed, rather than having a problem of height, the quarry had a problem of flooding.
About 30,000 tonnes of rock were taken from here, representing 6.5% of the total required for the harbour.
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