The Harbour Through The Years

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Had a look at the OSI maps the near building is the Harbour Commissioners' Office and the other one is the Sailors reading room and Home. I often wondered what they looked like. Super photo.

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Sinead » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:57 pm

The Carnival always set up on that Wharf when I was young. It is
St. Michael's Wharf. Denis Miller (father of the late Alex Miller)
ran the sailors rest/reading room. He had all sorts of bits of
maritime interest in the building. Was this the forerunner of
the Maritime Museum?

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Thomastown » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:27 pm

Micheál wrote:
victoria-wharf-royals.jpg


I don't recall this particular image being posted before - interesting display of buildings in the vicinity of Victoria Wharf. You can make out Railway Station wall and roof line of Crofton Road too.

The building in the middle background looks like but is not the Station. I'm supposing its the side of the Yact Club. Gulliver?

Source (& more) : http://pix.avaxnews.com/avaxnews/db/1d/00001ddb.jpeg

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Great Photo M
Is it possible that the Cavalary escort in the photo could be The Blue Hussars?
Or was this photo taken much earlier.

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:11 am

Google is my only man. The photo of King George V and Queen Mary was taken in July 1911.
The carriage is being followed by an escort of the 5th Royal Irish Lancers. A guard of honour of Bluejackets and a crowd of spectators can be seen in the background"

It is such a sharp photo I am enjoying looking at the crowd and the poor fellow with the big tum.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Navanman » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:38 pm

Micheál wrote:
victoria-wharf-royals.jpg


I don't recall this particular image being posted before - interesting display of buildings in the vicinity of Victoria Wharf. You can make out Railway Station wall and roof line of Crofton Road too.

The building in the middle background looks like but is not the Station. I'm supposing its the side of the Yact Club. Gulliver?

Source (& more) : http://pix.avaxnews.com/avaxnews/db/1d/00001ddb.jpeg

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Micheal would that be the depot in the middle background?
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Denis Cromie » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:53 pm

I think so,the Mariners Institute is in the background and the Depot was on the left of it. I always knew that area as The Jetty.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Snowhite » Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:15 pm

I never thought I'd see this piece of Land up for Sale :shock: :shock: Soon we wont be able to get near The Sea :?



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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:09 am

Very interesting and very close to the sewage works.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby grammer » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:39 am

Great find Snowy ===
Is that where the old soap factory was and Farrells Engineering was (betcha that grabs Spuds attention :lol: :lol: :lol: ????)
it's been a derelict site for years.
Make a great (paying money--cash :twisted: :twisted: carpark )for the council
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:47 am

Why not. Piece of waste ground.

Something about D/L house today too (opposite the Top Hat) Shame if it's sold off to be demolished for another block of flats or whatever.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Micheál » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:25 am

How about a seven storey cultural centre aka Library?
with a Withspoons atop.

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Micheál » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:48 pm

Walter Hayward-Young (1868-1920) painted advertising postcards like this one - portraying locations in Britain & Ireland under the name "Jotter".
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:51 pm

That's a good find Michael. Interesting there's no Harbour.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Micheál » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:01 am

I'm guessing the artist painted these from photographs. This one was taken from the West Pier, opposite the Light Ships, so that the East Pier, being so far in the background, has diminished to a thin line.

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:13 am

Micheál wrote:I'm guessing the artist painted these from photographs. This one was taken from the West Pier, opposite the Light Ships, so that the East Pier, being so far in the background, has diminished to a thin line.

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Yep I'm with you, he was concentrating more on the lightships. Anyway, great painting, I have never heard of the Skulmartin before. Good one.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby jwdalk » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:18 am

Strum wrote:
Micheál wrote:I'm guessing the artist painted these from photographs. This one was taken from the West Pier, opposite the Light Ships, so that the East Pier, being so far in the background, has diminished to a thin line.

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Yep I'm with you, he was concentrating more on the lightships. Anyway, great painting, I have never heard of the Skulmartin before. Good one.


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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:46 am

That was just lovely JW. Never had the guts to go out on the water.Thanks for that.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:28 pm

Good one JW, another for the collection. Cheers. ;)
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Zirco » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:15 pm

Hi All, I was browsing through the 1901 and 1911 censuses recently and came across an entry that puzzled me (it doesn't take much these days :D ).
The record in the 1911 census referred to the RMS CONNAUGHT, described it as a 'house ship' having about 300 people aboard including the master and crew.
I didn't know what to make of it but, cut a long story short, I received a reply about this issue from a lovely helpful man in the Maritime Museum and I include his reply below FYI.
Has anyone any additional info on this one please? Zirco.

REPLY: In relation to your query regarding the 1901 Census for Kingstown Harbour the problem lies with the way the records have been set up on the National Archives website. They appear to treat all of Kingstown Harbour as a single “house ship”. Accordingly when you search for a particular name the system returns the list of all names on this “house ship”, i.e. all those listed in Kingstown Harbour. The census return for the person you have searched for is there but is not displayed directly. In fact if you try to see the original census form for anyone on the list the system always returns just the page at the start of the census. In the case of the 1901 census this is the fishing boat “Edgar” 95319 with a crew of 7, in the case of the 1911 census it is RMS Connaught.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Micheál » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:08 pm

Thats a very revealing insight Zirco. Thanks for sharing.
I wonder did other Ports do the same?

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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Strum » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:56 am

Zirco wrote:Hi All, I was browsing through the 1901 and 1911 censuses recently and came across an entry that puzzled me (it doesn't take much these days :D ).


Try Privage messaging site member cambria49, no better man if he'll come on and explain it. ;)
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Zirco » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:40 pm

Strum wrote:
Zirco wrote:Hi All, I was browsing through the 1901 and 1911 censuses recently and came across an entry that puzzled me (it doesn't take much these days :D ).


Try Privage messaging site member cambria49, no better man if he'll come on and explain it. ;)


Hi Strum,
Yes I agree re Cambria49 expertise....amazing knowledge really.
I have pm'ed him about this....hopefully he will come on and 'explain all' :D
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Holla » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:21 am

Date wise I'm a few minutes out with this post, October 10th 1918 RMS Leinster sank off the Kish Bank 501 lost
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Zirco » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:21 am

Holla wrote:Date wise I'm a few minutes out with this post, October 10th 1918 RMS Leinster sank off the Kish Bank 501 lost


Your post prompted me to read about the tragedy...plenty on here about it.
Terrible thing...and Tom Connolly surviving,( thanks to the Chief Stoker ) and his proto- supermarket were mentioned....I remember the shop, across the road from my uncle's shop in Patrick's Street. The huge loss of life....tragic.
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Re: The Harbour Through The Years

Postby Rocker » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:41 am

Here is a wonderful song about the Leinster by William Byrne I think it was his Gt Grandfather who was the stoker on the Leinster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=u7182MkaCSY
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