RMS Leinster

The Port's Ferries Past and Present

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Sinead » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:20 pm

Delighted to hear the Quiz Night was a success, would like to have been there.

Rocker did you get a tour of The Club?

Sinéad
User avatar
Sinead
Somewhere over the rainbow
 
Posts: 1992
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Co.Dublin

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:22 pm

Sinead wrote:Delighted to hear the Quiz Night was a success, would like to have been there.

Rocker did you get a tour of The Club?

Sinéad


No tour last night Sinéad, it was choc a bloc with people. Great turn out. Will get tour again.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Strum » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:59 pm

I enjoyed that folks, lot of faces I haven't seen for a while and had a great chat with your friend from Mulgrave Sinead. Fun night for a great cause. thumbright
User avatar
Strum
Administrator
 
Posts: 9761
Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:03 pm
Location: Sallysupermarket, Thomastown.

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Snowhite » Tue May 02, 2017 12:49 am

Sorry I missed that, a friend is on the committee and she never mentioned it ????????? Not that I'd be much help anyway. :lol:
Life isn't tied with a Bow, But it's still a Gift.
User avatar
Snowhite
At the end of the Pier... Peace...
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:43 pm
Location: Loughlinstown

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Mon May 15, 2017 12:19 am

I spent a little time tonight going over the names of those British service personnel who died on the Leinster (http://irishmedals.org/r-m-s-leinster.html). I was really struck with the inclusion of Australian, Canadian and New Zealand citizens and was wondering why they were in Ireland. History Ireland has a little explanation on their site,


Meanwhile Ireland had become used to the sight of military uniforms from many countries. British troops were stationed throughout the country. The Royal Navy increased its presence on Ireland’s south coast, and in particular at Cobh, Co. Cork (then Queenstown). The Royal Air Force operated a number of aerodromes in various parts of the country. The entry of the US into the war saw a build-up of American ships at Bantry Bay and Queenstown. The US Naval Aviation Service operated five bases in Ireland. Military personnel from Australia, New Zealand and Canada visited the country on leave from the battlefields of France and Belgium.
On 10 October 1918 the RMS Leinster left Kingstown before 9am. On board were ship’s crew, postal sorters and passengers. While there were many civilian passengers on board, the majority were military personnel. Many were going on or returning from leave. There were soldiers, sailors, airmen and nurses. They came from Ireland, Britain, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Mon May 15, 2017 6:07 pm

I'm learning something every day about the Leinster great info on this irishwrecks site.

http://www.irishwrecksonline.net/detail ... ter555.htm

This might be the Desmond Brannigan referred to in the ownership?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/ ... -1.2822301
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Mon May 15, 2017 6:26 pm

report from the Irish Times in 2003 for the 85th commemoration.

" When the bodies started to come ashore at Dún Laoghaire harbour - then a naval base - Ireland was shocked by the scale of the disaster. Eight days later, in a twist of wartime fate, U-123 struck a mine in the North Sea, killing most of the crew.
Today the Leinster's almost intact wreck lies on a sandy seabed 12 miles from shore, in about 100 feet of water, more or less beneath the path of the Stena HSS, the high-speed car ferry. Divers say the 2,646-ton hulk is best visited an hour before high or low tide, in slack water, for the clearest views.
Most passengers that day were soldiers, sailors, airmen and nurses returning to duty. They came from the UK - including Ireland at the time - the US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. Of the 489 military on board, 326 were killed. Most died in their bunks.
Although occasionally remembered at maritime events, the sinking has failed to receive its due recognition. That there was no official commemoration of the 25th, 50th or 75th anniversary, in a period that spans Home Rule and the War of Independence, speaks for itself, says Breasal Ó Caollai of Friends of the Leinster, the voluntary organisers of today's event.
Only very recently, in 1995, did the owner of the Leinster's remains, Desmond Brannigan, and local divers rectify the lapse of memory when they raised one of the Leinster's anchors - now on Carlisle Pier in Dún Laoghaire in tribute to the Leinster's captain, William Birch, and the 500 others who died.
Philip Lecane, a historian who has written about the sinking, suggests the victims have been forgotten for so long partly because news of the disaster was censored. "It is because very little was known about them in the first place," he says. "And it's very hard to remember 501 faceless people."
For Lecane and colleagues such as William Byrne - great-grandson of the ship's chief stoker, John Donohoe, who survived the sinking - one of the most poignant aspect of today's commemoration is that an eight-and-a-half-decade wait for the State to become fully involved in commemorating the Leinster has finally ended.
Four jets from RAF Valley, near Holyhead, will fly past the site of the sinking at 9.50 a.m. today, marking the moment the first torpedo struck, and wreaths will be laid by LE Aoife and the Dún Laoghaire lifeboat. Then will come an inter-Church ceremony, at St Michael's in Dún Laoghaire at 11.45 a.m.
The day's organisers have asked for two minutes' silence at noon in the south Co Dublin town and in Holyhead, as well as aboard the Stena HSS, as a mark of respect to the crews and passengers of the Leinster and U-123. Among those attending will be representatives of the Allied forces, the German ambassador and postal workers from Belfast, Holyhead and Dún Laoghaire.
Later today a plaque will be unveiled at the town's post office to remember the 21 postal sorters who died - a tribute, along with the day's other events, that should ensure the memory of the 501 lost are no longer written out of our history."

I was sad to hear yesterday that the plaque at the Post Office has been vandalised ...even though it is indoors....have we NO SHAME anymore ??
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Strum » Mon May 15, 2017 8:14 pm

Rocker wrote: I was sad to hear yesterday that the plaque at the Post Office has been vandalised ...even though it is indoors....have we NO SHAME anymore ??


In Dun Laoghaire Rocker? :o
User avatar
Strum
Administrator
 
Posts: 9761
Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:03 pm
Location: Sallysupermarket, Thomastown.

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Mon May 15, 2017 11:16 pm

Yes, the Post Office on Georges Street. Seemingly someone cut a slash in it from side to side. I didn't see it but several people said it was true. Those poor postal workers were lads from Dún Laoghaire sorting the mail as the ship would sail to Holyhead.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Sun May 21, 2017 4:08 pm

Found this great Youtube video about the sinking of the Leinster. Some good underwater footage of the wreck of the Leinster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_NdrWRfQM
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Micheál » Sun May 21, 2017 6:21 pm

Rocker wrote:Found this great Youtube video about the sinking of the Leinster. Some good underwater footage of the wreck of the Leinster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_NdrWRfQM



Great find Rocker. Thanks for posting.

M.
User avatar
Micheál
Skies are Blue
 
Posts: 2510
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:13 am
Location: Within the sound of the Hooter

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Denis Cromie » Sun May 21, 2017 8:51 pm

Enjoyed that Rocker,thanks.
User avatar
Denis Cromie
Ex-Chief Chocolate Enrober
 
Posts: 3030
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:57 am
Location: Greystones

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby keeper » Tue May 23, 2017 8:09 pm

Thanks for posting that Rocker ! Enjoyed it, very interesting.
User avatar
keeper
Somewhere over the rainbow
 
Posts: 1803
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:52 pm

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Wed May 24, 2017 5:53 pm

keeper wrote:Thanks for posting that Rocker ! Enjoyed it, very interesting.


I am only starting to research the event myself. It was always talked about in my childhood because we regarded my Uncle Billy's father as a bit of a hero (he saved a lady and her daughter). We never knew the full extent of the deaths. Everyone in the town must have been affected on way or another.

I'd say every family also has great stories about the sinking and the Committee looking after the 2018 commemorations are anxious to compile the stories.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:15 am

I was at an exhibition in the Lexicon last night to launch the Irish Red Cross exhibition which is so interesting. At the same occasion the Chairman of the Council officially launched the official centenary events for the centenary of the sinking of the Leinster.
An example of what is planned
Public Exhibitions
At the Lexicon from now until end of October
St John's Ambulance exhibition, Commissioner of Irish Lights exhibition, Dublin Docklands and the sinking of the Hare and Adela in 1917, The Des Branigan exhibition (he helped bring the anchor of the Leinster ashore)
check the Lexicon site for further details.


National Maritime Museum
open daily 11.00hrs to 16.00 hrs

see www.mariner.ie for full details

An Post

exciting for me is that there will be a postage stamp issued to mark the centenary and an exhibition in the Post Office in Dún Laoghaire.
Postal sorters were the first to be killed on the Leinster!

Motor Yacht Club

22 and 23 September...100 boats for 100 years..
see www.dymc.ie for details
this sounds interesting as the boatrs will sail from the Harbour to the site of the wreck and back.

Leinster Angling tribute

The Holyhead and Dún Laoghaire Link Association are organising an angling competition

29 September 15.00hrs to 17.30 hrs at the Bandstand West pier
there will be a competition held at the same time in Holyhead.

Loughlinstown Men's Shed

after a row on the Liffey a mural will be unveiled in the shed to the victims of the Leinster.

Friday 5th October
21.00hrs Sea shanties at the Motor yacht Club 10 Euro see www.leinster2018.com for all details and to purchase tickets.

Saturday 6th October
Family day at the Lexicon.

Sunday 7th October

14.00hrs at Deansgrange Cemetery tour of the 11 Leinster graves conducted by John McCann and then the unveiling of the official monument to William Maher.

19.30 Concert sponsored by the British Royal Mail at Christ Church (beside the People's park) tickets 10 Euro.

Monday 8th October

19.30hrs the Dublin based Welsh Male Voice Choirat the National Maritime Museum


21.00hrs Jazz Tribute at the Dún Laoghaire Club 3 Eblana Avenue.

Tuesday 9th October
Failte Isteach 20.00hrs Traditional irish Music 15 Euro. A welcoming evening for all those attending the ceremonies.

Wednesday 10th October
Centenary Day
07.00hrs the L.E Eithne departs for the official laying of the wreath. The ship is booked out but the poignancy of the event will be worh seeing.

09.30hrs Inter Church Ceremony at St Michael's Church, Marine Road.

11.00hjrs official State Centenary event at the Lexicon.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Holla » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:15 pm

Some very interesting events there, thanks for posting rocker.
User avatar
Holla
Somewhere over the rainbow
 
Posts: 1339
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:03 pm
Location: The borough

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Sinead » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:41 pm

It is amazing how the 'Leinster' remembrances have grown over the years, the first event I remember was some local
people gathering school children for a small ceremony and the Lifeboat laying a wreath on the water.
I will be at a couple of the events.

Sinéad
User avatar
Sinead
Somewhere over the rainbow
 
Posts: 1992
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:09 pm
Location: Co.Dublin

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Micheál » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:18 pm

Some very spurious "ceremonies" here

An angling competition! Whats that all about?
And a jazz gig? Great way to commemorate the deaths of 550+

I blame those Titanic guys. What next, a Herald of Free Enterprise Hootenaney?

M.
User avatar
Micheál
Skies are Blue
 
Posts: 2510
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:13 am
Location: Within the sound of the Hooter

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:26 pm

Lots of relatives of those who perished on the M.V Leinster 100 years ago will be arriving in Dún Laoghaire this weekend for the commemoration ceremonies. I just saw the commemorative stamp which will be issued on Wednesday 10th to mark the sinking of the Leinster. A tribute from An Post to all the postal workers who perished on the fateful day. I am thinking tonight of all the families in the Boro who were going about their business this time 100 years ago not knowing the tragedy which would unfold in the coming week. May all who died on the dreadful day Rest in Peace.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:43 am

The State commemoration of the sinking of the Leinster was very well conducted. The area outside the new Lexicon was floored and seats arranged with a small raised podium/stage area. The day dawned bright and dry if rather cool. I had the privileged to have a ticket to the occasion and we were all seated by 10.30 am for the 11.00hrs start.

The commemoration was televised live on RTE television and here is the link to the RTE Player...I hope it works for those abroad.

https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/rms-l ... /10950554/
there are about two minutes of ads which I cannot clear!!

Relatives of the perished travelled from far distant countries and it was so sad hearing some of their stories.

A lot of politicians and public figures were very visible but in my opinion the person who deserves most credit for keeping the story of the Leinster in the public arena is the singer William Byrne. You can hear him singing during the event. Powerful and poignant had me in tears.
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Murphs » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:51 am

Rocker wrote:Found this great Youtube video about the sinking of the Leinster. Some good underwater footage of the wreck of the Leinster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_NdrWRfQM

Really found that video full of great information
Murphs
Stellar Member
 
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:47 am
Location: Stradbally Co Laois

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Rocker » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:36 pm

I'm delighted you enjoyed that Murphs.

Welcome to the site wuu wuu

Have you any good stories about Dún Laoghaire?
I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.
William Allen White
User avatar
Rocker
Globetrotter
 
Posts: 6445
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:29 pm
Location: The Rock

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Holla » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:18 am

Thanks for posting that link rocker I watched it yesterday the ceremony was very well done , did you spot yourself in the crowd ? I missed the days events got my dates mixed up and was booked in to the tenements museum in Henrietta street well worth a visit (off topic remember the days when strum would rear up when we went off topic :D )
User avatar
Holla
Somewhere over the rainbow
 
Posts: 1339
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:03 pm
Location: The borough

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby Murphs » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:28 am

Rocker wrote:I'm delighted you enjoyed that Murphs.

Welcome to the site wuu wuu

Have you any good stories about Dún Laoghaire?



Thanks Rocker
I was a member some years ago but I didn't use the site for a while
I did posts about Royal Terrace West and about Paul Singer and Hillary Weston nee Franye who lived on the Terrace.
May also of done posts about CBS Eblana where I went to sschool in the 60s
Murphs
Stellar Member
 
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:47 am
Location: Stradbally Co Laois

Re: RMS Leinster

Postby bugrock » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:48 am

Fire away, Murphs. There might be one or two on the site old enough to remember Eblana.
If it don't make your ears bleed, it ain't rock 'n' roll!
User avatar
bugrock
In the Bold Member Corner
 
Posts: 1717
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:28 am
Location: Mornington Peninsula Australia

PreviousNext

Return to THE FERRY



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest