Moan of the Month

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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:15 pm

Found this site the other day, it has an impressive amount of 'community' jobs on offer https://www.activelink.ie/content/vacancies

Given the number of vacancies and the types of work .... I wonder how anyone over 50 has survived without such supports back in the day ?

Anyone fancy a job as a "Social Prescribing Well-being Coordinator" ?
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:10 pm

Gosh Thanks Toss for that link. I was just talking to someone today who wants to change jobs and do something more caring. He is fed up with cut throat rat race!!

Can you imagine our poor Mas having any kind of help. They got the very basic read and write education to age 13 then off to make their way in the world. Every day was a struggle but, my Ma got up every day smiled and took on the challenges without widow's pensions or any assistance! She made our clothes, soled our shoes. grew and cooked our food, kept down three jobs, took in alterations, worked into the early hours and expected nothing...that is what kept them going..."there's you and there's it" was her famous saying about any predicament. And, they had to get over any hurdle. Hardship gave them Heart...I remember small work- weary women calling to the door to help in any crisis and to share any nice bit of food.....with all the community workers nowadays there is not much community except in some pretty exceptional estates...stop me raving or I will be bawling about the good old days!!!
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby bugrock » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:02 pm

So right, Rocker!
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Sinead » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:39 pm

Rocker:

Are you trying to make me feel old? Talking about your Mam out working from the age of 13 - I was 11 when I had my first summer job. Working in a B & B doing anything and everything I was told to by the owner. Had to give up my pay at the end of the week too.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:09 pm

Sinead wrote:Rocker:
Are you trying to make me feel old? Talking about your Mam out working from the age of 13 - I was 11 when I had my first summer job. Working in a B & B doing anything and everything I was told to by the owner. Had to give up my pay at the end of the week too.


Here's your brother ..... I was certainly working before I was ten. Summer was caddying and helping out (cleaning up, emptying bins etc) at local golf courses and Christmas had me plucking turkeys at the butchers. By the time I was 13, my Dad was dying and I had graduated to weekends in a well known supermarket, by 15 I had left school to start an apprenticeship. All of this time, my mum cleaned houses and we lived in a stone cottage with an outside toilet, no bath/shower and the only hot water was a boiled kettle. When I tell my kids today that Dad had to sleep in a bed with coats for blankets and that the bed had to be kept in the middle of the floor because of the damp on the walls .... they have no idea what a damp wall looks like. We thought we won the lotto when we got a council house after almost ten years fighting (no thanks to Labour's Barry Desmond who would regularly belittle the 15 yr old me in his clinic in front of his mates ..... oh how he laughed, but what goes around, comes around and I gave him a right earful on election day as I stood outside the school telling people not to vote for him).

However we survived, most of my friends were in the same boat and we never expected anything .... you got off your arse and made your own luck. All the while I had ups and downs, rejections and successes. I worked with some really hard men, some nut jobs and some absolute gentlemen, I learned what mattered for myself and don't regret a minute of it. Today all I hear is children's rights and all I read is young people having depression.... I wonder is it because they have never had to break sweat to get what they want?, is it because they never fail at school and are walking out at 24 years of age with reams of certificates and not a clue how to fend for themselves?

If only I had a 'well-being co-ordintor' to tell me when to be happy babbby
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby bugrock » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:42 pm

How I hated the 4.00 am rise to start my paper round from Dalkey Station. Rain and snow. Then home for breakfast in time to walk or bus, when we had the money, to Eblana. After school it started all over again. Don't get me started on the hills of Dalkey, and a heavily laden carrier bike full of papers.

How I loved the 4.00 am rise to start my paper round from Dalkey Station. Rain and snow. Then home for breakfast in time to walk or bus, when we had the money, to Eblana. After school it started all over again. Don't get me started on the hills of Dalkey, and a heavily laden carrier bike full of papers.
Then hand over the pay at the end of the week.

Of course the Mammy returned it in spades - clothing, food, a bit of pocket money, mostly love! And I never went without, because Da was never a day out of work.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:58 pm

Ha...we really love a good moan. I heard today of the passing of one of my old bosses and it made me think of "the job". What thicks we were going to work with the basic education. However, I soon copped on and worked my proverbials, studied, looked and learned. Whatever I didn't understand I studied up and made sure I knew it the second time.

Now, I'm tired of hearing 25/30 year old students on their doctorate complaining that they can't get a job to match their qualifications! where in God's name do 2million overqualified people hope to find top notch positions in this tiny country, How could we expect them to do menial work and they so qualified !!. I never cared if I was asked to wash the walls or move the furniture or deputise for the bosses or organise a conference for hundreds of delegates. We had stood on our own feet from 10/11 years and I was confident that I could tackle anything thrown my way.

I'm laughing at Toss explaining to the youth about damp walls, outside toilets and coats on the beds. It was only 50 years ago but it is light years to the modern youth. Cop on is what we got in bucketfuls! and common sense and I for one am pleased that we learned the hard way with powerful strong resilient family members...mainly the Ma.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:35 am

Rocker wrote: I'm laughing at Toss explaining to the youth about damp walls, outside toilets and coats on the beds. It was only 50 years ago but it is light years to the modern youth. Cop on is what we got in bucketfuls! and common sense and I for one am pleased that we learned the hard way with powerful strong resilient family members...mainly the Ma.


You want to see the look of "what" on their faces as I mentioned 'sugar sandwiches' ..... they couldn't believe I went to school with them as my lunch along with a Paddy whiskey naggin bottle full of milk :D

Anyone else have such a treat ?
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Micheál » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:39 am

Luxury!
I only had a vest for cover on a three-legged bed . . .

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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:02 am

Micheál wrote:Luxury!
I only had a vest for cover on a three-legged bed . . .

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:lol: :lol: :lol: The wooden spoon has been passed on like the baton...long may it rule wuu wuu

We were a bit luxury too...our curdled milk was in the Milk of Magnesia bottle and I don't think it was really washed out from one day to the next....a little rinse is all anything needed! I'm laughing here as I remember a treat one day for lunch my Ma fried up the one remaining sausage and cut it in tiny pieces and put it on the sliced pan...she squeezed it so hard to make sure it stuck that when I opened it at lunch time there was the imprint of her hand on the bread!!...the poor children nowadays with their immaculate lunch boxes and insulated containers are really missing out imagine in 60 years time they will not remember the little treat they had one monday and they certainly will not have had the germ immunisation we had from the very suspect implements which were wiped with the dish cloth...which also wiped the floor and the dog...stop...whose grandchildren wouldn't believe it..we are walking miracles of science...Marie Curie could have used us in culture growth :lol: :lol:
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Micheál » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:58 pm

Rocker wrote:
Micheál wrote:Luxury!
I only had a vest for cover on a three-legged bed . . .

M.


:lol: :lol: :lol: The wooden spoon has been passed on like the baton...long may it rule wuu wuu

We were a bit luxury too...our curdled milk was in the Milk of Magnesia bottle and I don't think it was really washed out from one day to the next....a little rinse is all anything needed! I'm laughing here as I remember a treat one day for lunch my Ma fried up the one remaining sausage and cut it in tiny pieces and put it on the sliced pan...she squeezed it so hard to make sure it stuck that when I opened it at lunch time there was the imprint of her hand on the bread!!...the poor children nowadays with their immaculate lunch boxes and insulated containers are really missing out imagine in 60 years time they will not remember the little treat they had one monday and they certainly will not have had the germ immunisation we had from the very suspect implements which were wiped with the dish cloth...which also wiped the floor and the dog...stop...whose grandchildren wouldn't believe it..we are walking miracles of science...Marie Curie could have used us in culture growth :lol: :lol:


I've heard of "eating out of the palm of your hand" but this is simply Brilliant! wuu wuu
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby keeper » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Right :twisted: That's it :twisted: flip the Lotto and Euromillions :twisted: I'm going LUAS SURFING wuu Half a million Euros or more to fall off, not do too much damage to the body (mine) then blame and sue everyone :lol: Anyone like to join me ? sure it'll be great craic :roll: :roll:
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Denis Cromie » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:25 pm

Yeah mad Keeper. It brought back memories of scutting behind cars in Cross Ave. I remember one day scutting and the car started to travel faster than I could run and I was dragged along for 30/40 yards until someone shouted to the driver that there was a boy behind the car. My knees were in bits and I was carted off to hospital and got patched up. When me Mother heard what happened I got a thick ear to go with me skinless knees. How times have changed.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:24 pm

keeper wrote:Right :twisted: That's it :twisted: flip the Lotto and Euromillions :twisted: I'm going LUAS SURFING wuu Half a million Euros or more to fall off, not do too much damage to the body (mine) then blame and sue everyone :lol: Anyone like to join me ? sure it'll be great craic :roll: :roll:


That poor girl, she had to settle for only half a Million Euros against the Luas operators for their gross negligence in allowing her access to their trams. I assume such awards won in courts do not impact on anyone claiming unmarried mothers allowance / rent allowance / benefit claims or any other charity supports (SVdP etc).

I read today how she has been suffering since the court case, it must a nightmare for her as she read the comments on facebook and instagram.... luckily she found the strength to react : The Independent reports that Ms Kelly blasted: "I know where use are all coming from but I'm not f***ing hiding me b****x will anybody bad mouth me or my child f*** them all haters will be haters."

I think she needs more support and certainly some counselling, hopefully the social services will be on the case and an entourage of caring staff will help Ms Kelly though this tough time.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:36 am

Oh Toss you always give me such a good laugh. I was so annoyed when I read about this case!!!
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Sinead » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:36 pm

Are all the SW benefits mentioned by Toss 'means tested'?

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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:29 am

So another Halloween is over. Such banging and popping all evening and night as the illegal fireworks went off!

I heard lots of moaning on the early morning reports about out of control bonfires etc. Well I feel it is time for the parents to step up to the plate and do a little or a lot of parenting!! Just a personal observation I drive along Wyatteville and for about a year the Council were making bicycle lanes on the roadway and opening up a gorgeous park which everyone could enjoy. Last evening as I was driving by there were about thirty children and youth dragging pallets, old matress', beds etc and piling them over 30 feet high just close to the entrance of the park. There was not an adult in sight. I dread to think what that fire looked like when it was lit. What are the parents thinking of? Do they not supervise their children? Do they care if their children are burned to death? Do they not care that the beautiful park will be blackened and burned? Do they not care about others??
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:48 pm

Rocker wrote:So another Halloween is over. Such banging and popping all evening and night as the illegal fireworks went off!

I heard lots of moaning on the early morning reports about out of control bonfires etc. Well I feel it is time for the parents to step up to the plate and do a little or a lot of parenting!! Just a personal observation I drive along Wyatteville and for about a year the Council were making bicycle lanes on the roadway and opening up a gorgeous park which everyone could enjoy. Last evening as I was driving by there were about thirty children and youth dragging pallets, old matress', beds etc and piling them over 30 feet high just close to the entrance of the park. There was not an adult in sight. I dread to think what that fire looked like when it was lit. What are the parents thinking of? Do they not supervise their children? Do they care if their children are burned to death? Do they not care that the beautiful park will be blackened and burned? Do they not care about others??



Here you go Rocker ..... https://extra.ie/2018/11/01/news/irish-news/ballybrack-bonfire-biggest-halloween?fbclid=IwAR2rLMyqKgP6jbQxUomyegZq4Yn3kGlUbcAWq1IhsjdB77IAE7KJK-z_MuQ

My view is that its an annual event handed down through generations (some could claim its part of our culture :P ) and year on year, accidents always happen yet no solution is offered. Is it that a solution is not wanted as the 'numbers' suit the agenda ?

How about building large sandpits that could be used all year for kids to play in and then cleaned out every October and used as fire pits with proper safety standards applied and persons of authority in attendance... the Councils need to take ownership of the problem (lets not forget they are happy to allow 'drifting' and that evolved from joyriding).

Looking at some of the online videos, we have now reached the rocket launcher level of fireworks ... I wonder how many arrests were made ?

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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:29 pm

Gosh Toss thanks for that video. It looked a lot more dangerous when lit. The thing that got me was how close it was to the houses and loads of parked cars!!but, those gobsh1tes crowding around...who knows if there were accelerants or plastics or God knows what hidden within the bonfire...after all it was a gang of tiny youths with no huge experience building it!!

That sand pit sounds like a great idea.

I haven't gone up to look at the park but I'd say it is in bits.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby gingertom » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:30 am

Just to give all the relevant information on fireworks.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/ju ... works.html

The relevant law is quite old and simply not reflective of current events in this jurisdiction. Its not alone in this regard.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2018 ... ?q=burning

A Statutory Instrument concerning burning for the purposes of waste disposal.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009 ... ?q=burning

Note section 3 subsection 2.....burning means the combustion of waste without a licence.

Have any of the burnings been licensed?
If the Councils take over the activity of Halloween Bonfires it potentially exposes them to litigation claims in the event of accidents.

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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Toss » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:22 pm

Sadly it seems the laws are ignored by all..... the sale of fireworks grow year on year, so someone is making a fortune tax free. The lack of action by the authorities shows how acceptable the unregulated fireworks industry has become despite the increase in power of what is being sold .... we are at rocket launcher levels these days :

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If we are not going to enforce the laws, then maybe its time to ditch them and legalise the sales of fireworks and generate some tax income to help pay for the annual drain on our emergency services.

As for the Councils, they cant even deal with difficult tenants so expecting them to deal with bonfires is unrealistic. I think we need to look at the root of the problem and that is the people themselves, they know exactly who is doing 'what' around them. Say any damage / vandalism on your road was to result in an increase in your rent or property tax ..... would you sit back and ignore whats going on around you or would you start to deal with the issues?. As we hand out unemployment benefit and supports to the most needy in out society, whats wrong with asking them for something in return .... surely they can take some responsibility for the area they live in. I can guarantee you that little Johnny down the road would not be out spraying graffitti or damaging public property if his parent/s had to clean it up and certainly all around them would not ignore the situation .

As a society, we need to stop rewarding bad behaviour and reward good behaviour.... suddenly people will step up and things will change.
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Re: Moan of the Month

Postby Rocker » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:27 pm

Toss you always hit the nail on the head!
A little aside. Many years ago my brother got a job in a difficult part of the city. He had been unemployed for some time and appreciated the job. The work and the place was totally alien to him but he decided to live and let live and work away. That is until one day some children came to his building and sprayed it to within an inch of it's life. He caught the children and gathered them and phoned their parents. the ultimatum was that the parents would paint the premises or he would press charges. The locals couldn't believe this attitude but appreciated (after much discussion) that he needed the job and was not going to be intimidated out of the place. The next morning a huge number of locals arrived and did a great painting job. They started to take pride in the area and became his firm friends . The most unlikely bedfellows. I loved my late brother's attitude and over the years the children grew to be very responsible adults with respect for the man who stood up to the gang and showed them how to help their neighbour. He did many acts of kindness for so many of them too.
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