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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:35 pm

Jobs for the boys eh ..... and still they get votes :roll:

A Fine Gael Senator who owes almost €31,000 to taxpayers has had interest on the debt waived by the Houses of the Oireachtas.

Ray Butler received €30,904 in termination payments when he lost his seat as a TD for Meath West in the last General Election.

The parachute payments are made on the basis the recipient ceases to be an Oireachtas member, and Mr Butler signed a declaration indicating he would not subsequently consent to being nominated to the Seanad.

However, he accepted the nomination from Taoiseach Enda Kenny and was appointed to the Upper House on May 27 last year – just three months after losing his seat as a TD.

The parachute money then became immediately repayable.

Records released under the Freedom of Information Act reveal the Houses of the Oireachtas wrote to him seven times seeking to recoup the money without success.

The letters stated: “Contrary to [the regulations] and to the undertaking you signed, you accepted the nomination of the Taoiseach to the Seanad under Article 18.3 of the Constitution.

“On acceptance, you were obliged to ‘immediately refund’ any money paid."

He replied September 21 last year, stating he was “not in a financial position presently to repay this lump sum in its entirety” and suggested doing so in instalments “in accordance with my financial capabilities”.

Following a meeting with the Ceann Comhairle and the Clerk of the Dail in January, an arrangement was put in place for him to pay €1,000 a month.

He previously described the requirement to give back the money as “a ridiculous rule”.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Sinead » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:10 am

This an absolute disgrace, why is this debt not taken from his current salary. If he owed tax
that is what would happen. The bloody cheek of the son of a bachelor.

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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:38 am

It never ends ...........
Taxpayers will have to pick up most of the tab for the failed High Court action taken by former Rehab chief executive Angela Kerins against the Dáil Public Accounts Committee (PAC).

A ruling yesterday means the PAC, Attorney General and the State face having to pay hundreds of thousand of euro in legal fees, despite winning the case.

Normally losing parties would have to bear all of the costs, expected to be up to €700,000 after the 10-day hearings.

However, a three-judge division of the court ruled the PAC will have to pay two-thirds of Ms Kerins's legal bill.

The PAC will also have to pay its own legal costs on top of that. These stand at €234,000 for work on the case in 2015 and 2016, according to documents released to the Irish Independent under Freedom of Information rules.

The two other defendants in the case, the State and the Attorney General, will also have to pay their own legal costs, as yet undisclosed, after failing to secure orders for costs against Ms Kerins.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/taxpayer-left-with-big-legal-bill-despite-state-winning-kerins-case-35598610.html

As usual the only ones making money are the legal eagles playing both sides of the fence ..... why should we pay when some greedyguts is not happy with her huge salary being questioned ? ............. its a sick joke.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby grammer » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:55 am

Ah sure we're a great little country are'nt we- as long as you are at the top of the heap-
money no object -
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Strum » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:05 pm

Free water in Ireland – but only if you’re a corporation.



http://www.right2water.ie/blog/free-wat ... orporation
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:21 pm

Strum wrote:Free water in Ireland – but only if you’re a corporation.

http://www.right2water.ie/blog/free-wat ... orporation



Like I said on Nov 29th last year ... Ballygowan Water is owned by Britvic which is a company registered on the London Stock Exchange and have recorded profits of €90.68m for last year. Lets not forget with annual exports of more than €800 million, Diageo Ireland is one of Ireland's most important exporters in the high value-added food and beverage category...... thats EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION EUROS and remind me again, how much is paid in water tax ???????
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Tue May 16, 2017 11:22 am

Ha ha I read that we sold off the LE Aisling €100,000 and now its being resold for €650,000+ ..... nice work lads.

Its also re-reported that many Irish Universities have millions of euros in cash reserves stashed away in various accounts, while still pleading poverty and increasing fees..... this is from 2015 :


The Dáil's spending watchdog is to investigate an "anomalous" €160m cash mountain in Irish universities which is growing by €30m a year, the Irish Independent can reveal.

The substantial cash reserves have arisen since 2009 when pension schemes in five universities were transferred into the central State fund.

However, the Higher Education Authority (HEA) has continued to pay €30m a year into the universities as if their schemes were still operating, and TDs are now demanding answers as to what is going on.

The universities at the centre of the new investigation by the Dáil's Public Accounts Committee (PAC) are: University College Dublin, University College Cork, NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth and Trinity College Dublin.


Two years later and its still ongoing, our spending watchdog must be a great place to while away the hours. Its your classic set up an enquiry put it on the back burner... probably a week to discover the facts and two years working on protecting the golden circle from any negative outages.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Rocker » Sun May 21, 2017 2:42 am

Wouldn't it make your blood boil. I'd say they don't know what ti investigate next. Keep the lid on all the cans of worms!!!
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Postby Micheál » Sun May 21, 2017 8:47 am

Rocker wrote:Wouldn't it make your blood boil. I'd say they don't know what ti investigate next. Keep the lid on all the cans of worms!!!


BREAKING: Worm Can Scandal!
Worms found to be only half their traditional length. And cans half empty too. Defenders say this is a safety measure to reduce weight and avoid heavy lifting.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Sinead » Sun May 21, 2017 10:09 am

Rocker, could you not sleep!

I wonder are these funds in the universities or in their 'Foundations'?
The universities are publicly funded but the foundations are charitable
trusts set up to garner funds wherever they can. This can of worms may
well bring Data Protection issues to the fore.

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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby keeper » Tue May 23, 2017 8:23 pm

Seanie Fitz cleared of all charges !! Nice one !! BangHead BangHead I hope he starts looking after all the people whose lives he destroyed, the Golden Circle lives again BangHead BangHead
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Tue May 23, 2017 8:41 pm

keeper wrote:Seanie Fitz cleared of all charges !! Nice one !! BangHead BangHead I hope he starts looking after all the people whose lives he destroyed, the Golden Circle lives again BangHead BangHead


In the modern world we live in, there is such a thing as planned obsolescence whene items are designed to break down and this same type of theory strikes me as a core issue here ..... was it a planned failure by the state in this case?

Lets face it ...... if a major corporation lost a big contract due to basic incompetence from a staff member, then there would be sacking with immediate effect. Will anyone ever lose their job for Fitz getting off the hook ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? not a chance, a complete set up from start to finish and mission accomplished as the golden circle remains untouchable.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Denis Cromie » Wed May 24, 2017 9:01 am

It's a scandal. It's like living in a Banana Republic. Have money, will get off.
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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Rocker » Wed May 24, 2017 5:47 pm

keeper wrote:Seanie Fitz cleared of all charges !! Nice one !! BangHead BangHead I hope he starts looking after all the people whose lives he destroyed, the Golden Circle lives again BangHead BangHead


Unreal stuff. He must have been laughing himself silly throughout the event knowing that the charges wouldn't stick. He would have had clued in legal advice who would see all the holes and pitfalls. I am so sad and all I can think of is those tapes which were leaked from other Anglo Irish lads...

http://www.thejournal.ie/the-anglo-tape ... 7-Jun2013/

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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Micheál » Wed May 24, 2017 11:26 pm

For me, the most scandalous aspect is the fact that the trial was 'doomed' to fail - following a similar acquittal in a separate trial in 2015. Despite this, the Judge and the DPP allowed the trial run on to become the longest trial in Irish Legal history, with Senior Coucels retained, Jurists retained, court capacity tied up to become just a cosy academic think-in, all paid for by you and me.

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Re: Water and other political issues.

Postby Toss » Thu May 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Micheál wrote:For me, the most scandalous aspect is the fact that the trial was 'doomed' to fail M.


As I said ... it was a planned failure on the states part and there's no repercussions as everyone is 'in' on the gravy train wuu

Also lets not forget that poor St Joan's false imprisonment saga will also cost the state a fortune as it trundles to a 'here's a warning' solution (although it would be hilarious if they jailed the protesters while Seanie smirks in the background). I actually think Burton and the Labour party missed an absolute sitter here ..... all she had to do was say she didnt want charges brought and refuse to give evidence. No doubt she could have been held for contempt of court and that would have made her a lot more popular with the people as well as giving the Labour Party some chance of a come back, instead she / they have alienated themselves from their own voters in key areas.

Sadly you cant get a Masters in common sense and finding a solution to problems is now so top heavy with 'experts' that no one can see the wood from the trees.
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