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Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Gulliver » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:37 pm

Upcoming book - Monkstown: A Victorian Village - Be in there first

Next month, of all goes well, a new history of Monkstown will hit the shops. It will be your great opportunity to read it all in a well organised fashion - (there's nothing wrong with this site, but it's history is a bit disorganised) or to put it in someones Christmas Stocking. It's an ideal present for any ex Monkstowner living abroad.

It's been brought to publication by Seamus Cannon and Carole Cullen and others based on original documents by the late Fr Vincent Quilter and Jim Gowan with design by local designer Eliane Pearce.

Here's where you come in: some advance funding is required to bring it across the final hurdle. So a scheme has been devised for "crowd funding". If you have a few euros lying about you could help. Just let Seamus tell you in the video below and the "fund-it" website for more details.

http://vimeo.com/107244314

Fund-it website is here
http://fundit.ie/project/monkstown-a-victorian-village
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Dancer » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:55 pm

Best of luck with it Gulliver!!
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Gulliver » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:56 am

Dancer - it's not my book......

But I'll be coming along with my book next year..........

In the meantime, the request for crowd funding has brought in 15 responses who together have pledged over €1200. More is required....
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Holla » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:28 pm

For those of you interested the book MONKSTOWN A VICTORIAN VILLAGE is now on sale in shops.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby gingertom » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:09 pm

My inlaws are from Monkstown and I bought this book yesterday. It is a fantastic informative read.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:40 am

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Last year I was out for a stroll late evening and got this unusual shot from the top of the car park at Salthill Statiion looking over to Seapoint.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Strum » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:46 pm

Ooooo nice shot Rocker! :D ;)
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Jemser » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Nice one Rocker. wuu
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby grammer » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:38 pm

Love it Rocker wuu wuu wuu wuu
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Micheál » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:51 pm

Great shot Rocker.
The unusual angle, framing by the trees and the sun peeking through all combine to make a great picture.

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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Denis Cromie » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:29 pm

Just came across this,great shot Rocker.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Navanman » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:26 am

Really lovely photo Rocker. I would not have recognised Seapoint. If I had that I would frame it.


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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:17 am

Navanman wrote:Really lovely photo Rocker. I would not have recognised Seapoint. If I had that I would frame it.


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Ha...you have it there Navanman just copy the photo.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:37 am

Just saw details of an illustrated talk tonight about "Forgotten Monkstown" at Mount Merrion community Centre at 8p.m. Should be a good one by Tom Conlon.

http://www.mountmerrionhistorical.com/W ... _Next.html
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Postby Micheál » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:27 pm

Rocker wrote:Just saw details of an illustrated talk tonight about "Forgotten Monkstown" at Mount Merrion community Centre at 8p.m. Should be a good one by Tom Conlon.

http://www.mountmerrionhistorical.com/W ... _Next.html


It was Rocker. Another great presentation. Right up there with the ones Gulliver gave on Georges Street

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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:48 am

Read this article in the Gazette about the closing of the Cheshire Home in Monkstown.

http://www.gazettegroup.com/category/ne ... laoghaire/

very sad to see that. I was only around the lands once but, it looked like a marvellous facility. Imagine the amount of retirement homes that will be built on the land which Mary Briscoe left.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Zirco » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:14 am

Hi Folks,
Came across this tonight......I notice the book has been mentioned on this forum a lot..........

Illustrated talk for Blackrock Historical Society by Seamus Cannon and Carole Cullen on their book 'Monkstown a Victorian Village, in headquarters of Comhaltas 32 Belgrave Square (formerly The Hall School) on Monday 7th December 8pm all welcome in the hall !
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Holla » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:14 am

Thanks for the Info Zircon,will put it in my diary ;)
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Zirco » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:38 am

Holla wrote:Thanks for the Info Zircon,will put it in my diary ;)



Ha! Make sure you go early to ensure getting a seat Holla!
Anyway, some folk MAY be interested..... dontknow :lol:
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Holla » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:12 pm

Zirco wrote:
Holla wrote:Thanks for the Info Zircon,will put it in my diary ;)



Ha! Make sure you go early to ensure getting a seat Holla!
Anyway, some folk MAY be interested..... dontknow :lol:
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I have the Book its a good read,still some in the shops if anyone's stuck for prezzie idea's
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:24 am

While I am really not into church/chapel matters of any sort I was interested in going to the launch of Monkstown Parish 150 year celebrations and the launch of the book "Twice Built"

St Patrick's, Monkstown, is 150 years old this year.The celebrations start in September.
A foundation stone was laid on 29th June 1861, but the church did not open for services until September 1866, and it was not fully completed at that time. What happened in between?
There is a clue in the title of a new book "Twice Built" by Tom Conlon. It tells the extraordinary story of the construction of St. Patrick's, and the people who built it.
Available from Hewetts Newsagency €11.99
Profits will go to parish funds.
also available from the publishers on line the Genealogical Society of Ireland.

It was a very enjoyable evening and the programme for the church celebrations is very interesting but, the best bit was getting the book. I really am enjoying it and hope to go to the church with it to look at all the items mentioned.

As my maternal great grandparents were married in that church in 1875 I have an interest in the place
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Holla » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:22 am

Thanks for the info Rocker must get myself a copy,I was at one of Tom's talks about the church like all his talks it was very interesting, my own grandparents and great grandparents where married there too.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Gulliver » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:31 am

Thanks, Rocker and Holla
The writing of this book was one of the occasions when everything worked in my favour.
I had a transcript of a diary of a retired bishop who lived adjacent to the site of the church in Monkstown at the time it was built... I got it many years ago.
The Freemans Journal had a reporter who attended every meeting in relation to the building of the church and reported it verbatim as if it was a national story.. even before the controversy arose. So also did magazines "the Irish Builder" and "The Tablet". The Pugin Society got involved in the writing. A student had done a thesis on some of the fit-out of the church. And finally, the Ordnance Survey did a new survey of Monkstown while the church was under construction, and thereby provided great detail on the neighbourhood.

I was extremely pleased with the result.
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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Micheál » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:16 am

I've just completed my first reading of "Twice Built". There's so much information, I'll probably have to revisit several times to extract full value from this welcome book.

Many congratulations Gulliver - another triumph.

I was fascinated to read the "now and then" picture analysis and how some of the vines and Angel heads were "carved in situ" at a later date. At the risk of seeming pedantic, I'd suggest these were "revealed" rather than "carved". I doubt that they are made from stone but rather plaster. My understanding is that decoration of such intricacy
- Could not be practically sculpted from stone or plaster in situ
- were traditionally cast in 'jelly' moulds.
So I think the early image shows the casings containing the moulds.
My 'intelligence' on this is informed by advice I received when involved in the refurbishment of plasterwork in nearby Monkstown House.

Speaking of refurbishment, the church underwent a major project to mark the centenary of the build. It might have co-incited with Vatican II reguirement too. That was when the panels behind the alter were removed. Anyway, an internal "floor" had to be constructed mid way up to allow builders work on the ceiling. This necessitated a complex grid of scaffolding to be erected throughout the main floor area. One consequence of this was that, when I made my confirmation that same year, the Bishop could not make the traditional journey through the terrified candidates, randomly picking some unfortunate to pose some theological make-or-break conundrum. As an alter boy, I got wind of this unannounced change in plan and derived great pleasure from the ongoing discomfort of my peers who had endured sleepless nights brushing up on their cathecism. In the event, no questions were asked of anyone. I suppose that makes me a sort of Provo- RC, a bit like those drivers who were given a licence without the test.

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Re: Monkstown: A Victorian Village

Postby Rocker » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:30 am

Great info Micheál. it is the local snippets that make the subject come alive. I well remember swotting up on catechism questions for the Bishop :lol: you must have felt so smug :D

The bit about the plasterwork reminds me of a much later time in the 30's when some buildings in Dublin city were being restored they brought Italian plaster workers and their apprentices to Ireland do the ceiling and cornice work. One of the apprentices met and married one of my Dún Laoghaire in laws !! I can never see a fine ceiling without thinking of Bob Canty, one of God's own gentlemen.
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